Try as I might no joy. I watched for a while a Doctor message page today and both sides of the domain window were negative like mine but one difference I noticed he had a domain name number. So a name was registered to the number. This process is not proper for every set top box and IOT items going into houses. Network & satellite TV services are going on line and off antenna. While many of these won't be looked at some like iceboxes and ovens and .... might and will be. The Brennan B2 isn't the first and won't be the last to be on an internal router and the page on the set top box itself with the data to be displayed. All of the 10 numbers are internal. Many set top boxes have only the modem router to use so they have outside numbers using one from that router. I don't think millions of people will register a few web sites that are internal just so they can gain access to the data within. I may have to direct connect it to my router via NIC connections. The nasty thing about all of this is the site was fully active on two computers. Then higher security was forced upon us and those doing that don't understand the set top box issue. Once higher security was enabled we could not get access to the wireless connection on this router. IF, as I suggested, a new command were generated that looks only locally that might solve more than you think. I'm referring to the original : file:///C: then came http:// and later https:// now if we had a forth or an enhancement to one of the three it might save the set top box, IOT [intranet Of Things] , Set Top Box... I know the third slash means Local disk and the next letter followed by a colon is a drive letter. Wonder if there is a REMOTE file selection. Maybe someone knows the syntax of file: well enough to have a local number to be accessed. That might solve it all. Where is the syntax for FF ? Martin

Your device most likely has an HTTP or HTTPS address, and not a FILE address.

I think until this is sorted, you'll need to manage the device using one of your other browsers, like Edge or Internet Explorer.

The issue is it doesn't have a Name attached to the internal number it got. If it were Brennan003571<10.......> then it would be ok. But it only has numbers. It sorts them out itself. One would have to pay for the name before the number so the name is the domain not the number. Now how many Set top boxes, IOT devices, and others would you pay so you could simply read and have access to the data. The requirement of a name and registered domain is crazy. the Registration company has more to do for that. I was knocked off the internet when 58 started doing the domain checking. I got an email from a doctor and they had a name and it worked, but both sides of the domain window showed negative remarks but allowed it to be authorized. That is how I found it was the name not the number. The registration company should know about internal number and allow them as not BLACK WEB domains. Martin H. Eastburn

As far as I can tell, the Brennan B2 does not require a host name. In the intro video, the device shows you its address on the front panel and the voiceover says to enter it into your browser. (Screen grab attached; your address will vary.) Doesn't that work in any of your browsers?

I enter that and it did until this version of FF came out with spy hunting for black sites. Google was given the task to hold the list and anyone without a name domain would be listed black. So when 58.0.2 came out I lost the page. Like I stated before, if the name<number> or the proper syntax was used and the name & number registered then it would work. It might have been in 58.0.0 for all I know when the implementation took place. Now the intranet of things (IOT) and set top boxes can only go out to hunt information but you without a name on the domain get input from the set top box or IOT . Signing up and paying for a dozen of these might be expensive for anyone. My TV(s) dvd(s) are internet set top boxes. I can't see them on the net, only through their interfaces. I see you have a B2 or grabbed a picture. I love mine except for what FF did to it. If you have FF 58.+ on a windows system I know the Brennan Forum would like to know how. We can't any longer.

I guess for now you'll need to use Edge or Internet Explorer with the device.

59 is here and still no positive results. Still refused to load my internal web page. This ISN"T solved. Still a bug. Here is my homepage.

https://monitoring.solaredge.com/solaredge-web/p/site/282081/#/dashboard|http://10.224.219.149/#

Notice it loads two pages. The Solaredge page comes up nicely. It monitors my solar panel. The next page is right after dashboard with the seperator and is http://10.224.219.149/# it is still refused as a black site as it doesn't have a domain name. That is outrageous since INTRAnet of Things is building and won't have paid for domain names on every device or page that needs to be seen or used to control. Only external control pages can. Inside of the home domain is Intranet and outside is Internet. People 'search' the Internet. Owners use Intranet for their work. I'm sure you have them at your work. I've had Intra at work in the late 80's. Maybe before. But that is fair. When are you going to allow intranet to be shown on intranet browsers.  ?? Martin H. Eastburn

Hi Martin, I don't know why your Firefox can't access http://10.224.219.149/

You haven't answered my questions about (A) whether other browsers on the same PC can access that address or (B) whether your Firefox connection settings are modified.

Your claim that IP addresses can no longer be accessed in Firefox is not based on any documentation as far as I know. As previously mentioned, my Firefox can access intranet addresses starting with http://10.10 and I see no reason to have problems with addresses that start with http//10.224.

I tried Iexplorer or what ever it is called - Thought I had deleted it. Afterall, FF has been my choice since the beginning and after Mosaic from Cern. I go back that far. Changes yes.

Anyway IE refused display. I put in trusted site into it and it still did. That is from their help area. I have only 7 since they blew up my 10 grade laptop with the last update.

Windows 10 don't check for disk space and they backed up my version and all programs / data then put out theirs into another area to expand and create all this new glory. After 9 days I aborted the process. The memory disk was full and nothing was there. I had the old backup in parts so I was able to save some. Still fighting the from scratch install. They want to sell computers and this i7 laptop is worth saving.

It is a matter of being black listed. There is all sorts of talk on their site about how to get off the black list and how to get on a white list. I'm looking at that. Anything useful I'll post on this for others in need. I was using it with FF but the virus banning of non-registered sites was 'someones' idea to save the world. Martin

jscher2000 said

Hi Martin, I don't know why your Firefox can't access http://10.224.219.149/ You haven't answered my questions about (A) whether other browsers on the same PC can access that address or (B) whether your Firefox connection settings are modified. Your claim that IP addresses can no longer be accessed in Firefox is not based on any documentation as far as I know. As previously mentioned, my Firefox can access intranet addresses starting with http://10.10 and I see no reason to have problems with addresses that start with http//10.224.

Firefox itself doesn't ban them from what I know, but you pass on to others that do. The black list and white list is held by Google from what I have heard. Google wants to own everything and everything. Copy of all. Sell us stuff now. They are growing to fast and to big for many of us now. Martin

Hi, When something is banned in Firefox from google data base you would know by the screen page being solid Red. There is options to go around that or go back so blocking is not a issue.

I just checked your numbered site and it is down. https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/10.224.219.149

Could you please use the above URL to check if the site stays down. In Whois it is a Private/Reserved site so there is no info on the owners or a contact.

The site isn't public. I would hope the three routers between the Internet and my set top box would keep you out. In theory it might be available. It is on my router as a listed connected device. along with this and other devices. It is interesting that blocking turns red. That must be FF mode. That is good to know. But something in 58 then (on 59.0 64 bit now) changed and took it off line. I'm not the only one this way - the Brennan Forum has others. When the WI-Fi is on the outside router that has the modem it is a public accessible and a phone could reach it. Mine is 3 routers from the modem. On the third router wireless is the set top box. So I'm not surprised whois and other tools can't find it. I verified the device is active on the router within the hour. I include two images Martin

Hi, was there any firmware updates pushed out to your routers that may have changed the connection settings. Anything change in the router Firewall if it has one.

Pkshadow said

Hi, was there any firmware updates pushed out to your routers that may have changed the connection settings. Anything change in the router Firewall if it has one.

Nope. FF is sending domains out to be verified and being from a Machine that fetches the last in a group of 50 I have on this router it is only a number. It is blacklisted as being not registered with anyone. A place to get crawly things eating up code and our lives, NOT. It is all over MS web site as well.

Can you check your A/V Firewall support forum to see if any issues or put your last post from here into your question in that forum as a lot of info in that one. As well as here : https://www.tenforums.com/ and / or https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/229/windows-10-support/

More input : chrome://browser/skin/aboutNetError.css

This is from the debugger that you have and this is the error .

What is going on with the plan. This is an Internal to this home Music box. I need to edit and control it from the web. Your new rules to black out sites so MS doesn't have problems doesn't allow for internal sites that are trying to be read inside. You always go outside and then come back. Only local command will work if you keep this number trap in your software. This is restraint of trade issues. You are killing product lines. Other software like Chrome do the same thing. I even tried to load an old version of your software and you forced the new on in its' place. We need help in resolving and a route to an end. There isn't a Page per-say the page is built on the fly with a basic form from the contents of a database that is different on every machine except for layout.

jscher2000 said

As far as I can tell, the Brennan B2 does not require a host name. In the intro video, the device shows you its address on the front panel and the voiceover says to enter it into your browser. (Screen grab attached; your address will vary.) Doesn't that work in any of your browsers?

The B2 looks at the list on the local router. If there are an assigned list it takes the last on always. It then keeps that one and we use it as the basis to get out page display. The number is being banned in the security pass of the domain checking software. No one can access it from the outside if the firewalls are functional. It is always used internally to the site. If the B2 is on the outside - the modem/router then the browser on a cell phone might find it. FF cell doesn't. Typical excuse - The request timed out. The box is a wireless partner with the cell phone on the same router. Time out going outside and trying to come back in but trapped out by virus hunters and killer software in play. This is all over MS web site as well.

No answers, no updates for you. Nor for us after going to Tenforums or bleepingcomputer as you were asked to.

To submit suggestions for new or changed features, may I suggest: Feedback: https://qsurvey.mozilla.com/s3/FirefoxInput/ or If you have a bug, file a bug report. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ Bug Writing Guidelines : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines

Pkshadow said

Hi, was there any firmware updates pushed out to your routers that may have changed the connection settings. Anything change in the router Firewall if it has one.

The unit is on this router. I'm on a wired and the box is on the WiFi - both make it to the same router software/hardware. I had it on my FF until 58 came along and 59 is here. This is an outside group that is being sent this and is blocking it so there is a timeout. 10.* means Internal. One of you tried to traceroute it but it being behind a modem and 3 routers it should be blocked. We need a local command like file:\\\ for local IOT items. Or we need a software return to sender loop back and not out to the spam killers of the world. My 10 system had it, but MicroSoft blew it up physically by not calculating the space needed to move and create the new major patch. Poor concept on laptops that are memory based and without a ton of spinning disk. It was also a WiFi. I might have to go hardwire through the power lines but that might not work either. Someone doesn't know the internet rules and passes local domains to be blocked. I can see it if it were 192..... or 185..... Those are 'outside' domains. 10.xxx.xxx.xxx are reserved internal domain numbers 50 of which are on each of my two 1GHz routers. Nice high speed Intranet. Martin

Pkshadow said

Hi, was there any firmware updates pushed out to your routers that may have changed the connection settings. Anything change in the router Firewall if it has one.

NO. It was running as my home page. I have two that come up when I press home. My solar array web and my Music web. Solar is in Germany, Music is in the other room just out of arms length. The company for the B2 is in the UK. But it doesn't go there.